♆ Deep Dive into planet NEPTUNE in Astrology ♆
♆ Introduction to Neptune ♆
Neptune wants us to feel special, untethered, & free, but through fantasy. These methods may give us a feeling of euphoria, however Neptune's powers know no bounds & will cloud everything it touches, blurring our perception & feeding us illusions of our deepest, unconscious desires. As dangerous this may be though, Neptune functions to serve our growth & healing.
◐ Relations to Other Planets (THEORY) ◑
This particularly affects anyone w/ strong Neptunian influence because it manifests a person that is multi-talented but is extremely unsure of the self because the energy of the planets are no longer grounded.
☉ - Like the Sun, Neptune provides a way for people to stand out & shine.
⇟ Gonna explain Neptune's connection to each planet ⇟
Neptune has effects of glamour, & with the right placements & aspects, Neptune will make one "glow".
☽ - Like the Moon, Neptune grants us access to our intuition & feelings.
The Moon more so represents the feelings we express & Neptune is the deep, subconscious feelings we have. Both the Moon & Neptune rule intuition because of their connection to the mind & our emotions.
☿ - Like Mercury, Neptune heightens the mind & imagination.
However, the difference is Neptune influences the part of the mind that colors the creative thoughts instead of rationale, common sense, or logic. Here is an example of Neptune absorbing the parts of a planet it likes & reflecting it.
♀ - Like Venus, Neptune represents love, beauty, & art.
The difference though is that Venus "sees" beauty while Neptune allows us to "feel" & be captivated by it. Also unlike Venus, Neptune's love is unconditional.
♂ - Like Mars, Neptune gives us compassion.
Mars & Neptune are planets of expression & energy & both have an effect on our desires. Mars just acts (or doesn't act) consciously while Neptune does it unconsciously.
♃ - Like Jupiter, Neptune seeks things far & wide, beyond our current understanding.
I personally think that Neptune has the strongest relation to Jupiter due to the rulership over Pisces. Both are planets that represent our journeys, foreign lands, things that are big. Neptune & Jupiter also grant us our wishes, feed us things that we want (& probably don't always need in life), & can cause overindulgences. They also both govern the realm of our beliefs in things that are greater than us like religion & spirituality.
♄ - Like Saturn, Neptune confines & isolates.
Neptune has a way of suspending reality & trapping us in our own little world. Saturn will restrict us in ways that was created from external forces or restricts us in a way that effects our social groups. Saturn's restrictions are normally felt on a conscious level. Neptune however can make us feel so good in our own space that we never leave it.
♅ - Like Uranus, Neptune offers us freedom.
Uranus is a rational, mental, action-oriented planet, so freedom through Uranus is something that you actually fight for. Neptune's freedom is felt on a more spiritual level, beyond the physical plane.
♇ - Like Pluto, Neptune serves us the tools for our soul's growth & transcendence.
Pluto is a planet that puts us through many trials and tribulations to achieve our souls purpose. Pluto is like generational pain, & Neptune's trials require you to ground yourself OR let things go. Both planets represent things that are akin to death & rebirth.
★ Neptune & the Signs/Houses ★
Because Neptune is a collective planet & moves slowly, I am not interested in breaking down Neptune through the Signs & Houses. To be brief though, how you express the topics of Neptune will depend on the sign & through the Houses, wherever Neptune is will show what part of your life that you retreat to, where you feel bliss, or the contrary, the parts of your life that you escape from & feel the most confused.
Most Neptunian influence will come from aspects to personal planets & the angles in your birth chart. It will be at its STRONGEST when tightly conjunct the Ascendant, Descendant, IC, or MC. Neptune is also strong when tightly conjunct, square, or opposite your personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, & Mars).
Those w/ a strong Neptune will personify Neptune, embodying the collective's dreams. This manifests artists, mediums & people who wish to be saviors. If you don't have a highly aspected Neptune or one that is on the Angles in your chart, then Neptune will not really attach it's energy to your personality. Instead, Neptune will manifest outside of you in your life, clouding the things around you.
If you're having a hard time figuring it out whether you have a strong Neptune or not:
- People born between 1970 - 1984 & 2012 - current will have strong Neptunian influence if they have a few personal planets in Sagittarius, Gemini, & Pisces aspecting Neptune tightly.
- People born between 1984 - 1998 will have strong Neptunian influence if they have a few personal planets in Aries, Cancer, Libra, & Capricorn aspecting Neptune tightly.
- People born between 1998 - 2012 will have strong Neptunian influence if they have a few personal planets in Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, & Aquarius aspecting Neptune tightly.
- People with Neptune in the 1st, 4th, 7th, or 10th House conjunct the ASC, IC, DSC, or MC respectively.
♆ Neptune Aspects in the Birth Chart ♆
Here, I will be discussing what patterns may manifest in your life if you have Neptune making aspects to the planets & points in your chart! (I won't be explaining Neptune aspecting Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, or Pluto because they will not really have a huge effect on your personality)
︾ Neptune Aspecting the Angles in the Birth Chart ︽
ASC = You & your body
IC = Your safe space, home, & family
DSC = Your relationships with others
MC = Your image, career, & goals
So, regardless of what angle Neptune is aspecting, people, especially those with Neptune tightly conjunct them, will want to be viewed as GLAMOROUS because these are places where we are to be seen.
◇ Neptune on the ASC/DSC Axis
Those with Neptune on this Axis will be extremely sensitive, multi-faceted, enchanting, nonjudgmental, & will have a lack of solid boundaries.
- On the ASC, Neptune will make one prone to absorbing many things around them, making them hyper-sensitive to their surroundings. They sometimes have overreactive senses such as hearing or touch. They are almost always magnetic, drawing in the people around them, but also anything from them. This makes it hard to distinguish how they are portraying themselves.
- With Neptune on the DSC, they will lack a reasonable sense of judgement for others, or they ignore their intuition, glossing over faults & red flags, idealizing others instead. Neptune-DSC people only see the "highest good" in people, seeking to save them & attempting to elevate them to the potential that they see in them. They believe that it is their job to be there for others & they try their best to do so, but this often just results in disappointments, especially in romance, because Neptune-DSC doesn't realize that the person that they are trying to elevate isn't meeting the Neptunian's vision.
◇ Neptune on the IC/MC Axis
With Neptune on this Axis, there is often an uncertainty of direction in life, confusing the family's vision for the native for their own personal vision, adopting the family's dreams. There is also almost always a distorted view of at least one of the parents.
- On the IC, the Neptunian is often missing a sense of family in a way. Depending on the planets involved, it can manifest as family members physically being missing (like military parents, divorced, etc). They will also have a strong desire to escape from the family roots & find their ideal home. Neptune-IC people are obsessed with their vision of what family & their safe space should look & feel like.
- Neptune-MC people wish to be perceived as glamorous (more so than the other angles) & a hero, even if it doesn't fit their characteristics & personality. They crave recognition from their family, desiring to be appreciated.
⊛ Neptune Aspecting the Planets in the Birth Chart ⊛
When Neptune touches another planet, it "gives away" whatever that planet represents whether intentional or not. You may reject, run away from, or not recognize the realities & boundaries of these planets & the house it is in. Neptune does this to open up your possibilities, but possibilities are endless, so this could result in healing or deception, depending on the path you take.
◇ Sun - Neptune: LOSS of Ego
These people desire to stand out & be special, but they lack a grasp of their identity & spend most of their lives searching for the real self. Sun-Neptunes set impossibly high standards & expectations for themselves (but don't put much of any expectations on others!), resulting in a life where they just "float through" & never move forward because they want to save themselves for only the best things in life.
They are very friendly & aspire to heal those who are lost like themselves, but they never follow their own advice, always having the tools to fix everyone else other than themselves. Lots of times they feel like the people in their life have more important lives than them due to a lack of direction, so they spend lots of their time supporting & creating the best versions of other people. This results in the Neptunian feeling as though others are all moving ahead in life from their support. But that support is almost never returned to them, so they feel stuck, always sitting in the same place.
Sun-Neptunes allow their ego to push down their "glow". So the key to conquering this difficult aspect is to clarify their inner boundaries & gain more respect & confidence for themselves. They need to let go of the ego, & accept THEMSELVES as they are, just like how they do for others. These people do greatly devoting time to channeling their interests/hobbies into the house(s) that this aspect occupies. This will help clear up the fog surrounding the personality.
◇ Moon - Neptune: FEELING Drowned
These people are often emotionally drained from absorbing emotions & feeling so much but not being able to define & separate those feelings. They will attempt to escape the feeling of drowning by avoiding conflict & difficult situations. This helps minimize how many different energies they are absorbing from others.
Moon-Neptunes hate suffering so they find security in devotion to the nourishment & care of others. They act like the mom they never had, as this aspect can sometimes manifest an emotionally &/or physically distant mother.
◇ Mercury - Neptune: DISTORTION of Logic & Practicality
This aspect creates a mind that is open to anything. These people are willing to embrace & accept any kind of information, but unfortunately they have difficulty absorbing & processing it. Mercury-Neptunes can be very forgetful & their minds are not equipped to digest math problems or anything with complicated formulas & equations. In turn though, they are very inspirational, imaginative, & normally pretty good with their hands, doing crafty things.
People with this aspect have poor verbal expression, resulting in often talking in circles & never getting to the point. They also often distort reality & information in a way. Sometimes, it's simply exaggerating things & telling half-truths, but in extreme cases they will spin crazy stories & tell lies (half the time ending up believing it themselves!)
Something that helps people with this aspect is to create things & write stuff down. Having cute journals & pretty colored pens do wonders for Mercury-Neptunes because it allows them to use their creativity & also helps them "ground" the information. Putting pen to paper allows information to not seem like it's "floating away". Half the time, as long as people with this aspect write it down at least one time, they'll remembered it. It's just the act of grounding it & putting it into reality that helps.
◇ Venus - Neptune: ESCAPE from Commitment
Venus-Neptunes are selfless people who accept everyone as they are, embracing every & anyone with their love. Unfortunately, this results in poor partner choices because they are often blind to other's faults. Everyone feels perfect to Venus-Neptunes in the beginning. Relationships are like a drug to them, especially in the "honeymoon phases". They seek to stay in the clouds during the entire relationship, so when the glamour fades, Venus-Neptune withdraws. This manifests commitment issues & one who endlessly floats between relationships, almost never not being in one at any given time. But they don't actually desire real relationships, they yearn a "meeting of the souls" but not necessarily one of the bodies.
Venus-Neptune people subconsciously opt for long-distance relationships in a way... Sometimes literally LDRs or relationships where the couple is so busy that they don't talk or meet often. This way, whenever they do talk, it always feels like the first time, but also, there's always a loose end & an easy exit to withdraw from the relationship. They always leave a door open for their ideal "dream partner" to have a way in.
Because Venus-Neptune's love is so all-embracing & unconditional, reserving love for 1-on-1 relationships can be kinda elusive. Their partners feel special in a way that no one can EVER love them like a Venus-Neptune can & they make the partner feel like they never have before, but their partner also can simultaneously feel non-special in a way that they feel as though Venus-Neptune treats & loves them no different than how they'd do to their friends & other people, including strangers. They love EVERYONE & partners of these people need to feel like they're different. Sometimes due to this, 1-on-1 love is sacrificed by Venus-Neptune for caring professions or giving love to the community.
Venus-Neptunes are normally very conscious about how they appear to others, always wanting to look their best & beautiful. But regardless of how they personally believe they appear, they never have problems attracting others because people are attracted to them for their inner beauty & loving, caring nature as well as their magnetic, seductive demeanor.
◇ Mars - Neptune: ILLUSION of Strength
Mars-Neptune people are ones who struggle to act on their dreams. They build up & motivate other people but end up staying stagnant in their own lives. Often they end up being dragged into other's goals & dreams instead of working on their own & subconsciously build up resentment when they are being used for the progression of other's goals.
Regardless, Mars-Neptunes usually don't feel anger or they simply can't easily express it. They can almost never clearly identify the specifics of the source of their emotions & it just ends up dissolving. They almost never stay mad. Any upset feelings, assertion, & aggression that is not expressed by the Mars-Neptune person is normally manifesting outside of the self. This means that they are normally related to, or meet lots of fiery or Martian-type people in their lives. The house that these planets are in will identify where these kinds of people show up. For example, I have a Mars-Neptune conjunction in my 7th House, so I often meet very Martian people in romance.
Mars-Neptunes may lack a fight for themselves, but any pent up energy goes towards fighting for people who mistreat & oppress others. They always stick up for the underdogs & lost people. Their strength is channeled through Neptune instead of Mars, so embracing others is their strength, & engaging in artistic/imaginative activities can act as an outlet for them.
☊ Neptune Aspecting the Nodes & Chiron in the Birth Chart ☋
◇ North Node - Neptune: Destined to GLOW
Those with Neptune aspecting the NN are visionaries. They have creative, intuitive, & inspiring abilities that no one else has. They bring these qualities everywhere they go, influencing positive transformation in any field of work they are involved in. Really, anything & anyone that NN-Neptunes touch will transform them & leave a lasting effect in some way. There's no better way to explain this aspect other than these people shine & glow.
Even though NN-Neptunes bring about good change in others, they often have a hard time figuring out their life path & destiny. For these people, it's normally a lifetime journey to find their purpose in this life. They just have to float through life until they find it.
◇ South Node - Neptune: DULLED Star
I don't have much to say about people with this aspect other than they often are in the background & go unnoticed in life. They feel invisible to others, as their presence is dimmed & they lack a way to shine. They also hold a lot of secrets & move along in life quietly.
◇ Chiron - Neptune: ESCAPING from the Wound
Chiron-Neptunes struggle with the fight between their logic/reality & spirit/soul. They often run away from the journey of connecting to their spirit. Their healing path requires them to turn the unconditional love that they show others inward & become more loving to the self & their soul.
Closure
Thank you so much for reading this long post! I hope I was able to help you understand Neptune a little more! - Ahmira ❤
Sources:
- Aspects in Astrology by Sue Tompkins
- Parker's Astrology by Derek & Julia Parker
- The Astrology Podcast Episode 326 "Neptune in Astrology" with Laura Nalbandian
- My own chart & experience (I have almost all these aspects & a strong Neptune)
- Chart studies from others
- Online sources, searching keywords & terms (I wish I had all the links, I jotted notes & then wrote my own descriptions)
My name is Zhane' and I love the fact you gave contrasting and similar effects neptune may have with the planets or ( strengths & weaknesses) , this is worth reading and thank you for taking the time to put this together
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